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Sandy Hook - A Chronological Look

Sandy Hook Account – “Above TopSecret” Forum ATS – 158 page thread on the shooting at Sandy Hook

Notes regarding this summary:


NOTE 1:  This summary has stripped out all emotional posts (I’ll pray for the families, my thoughts are with the families, etc.) and opinions on the gun-grab and politics…


NOTE 2: The time-stamps are one-hour behind the actual times of the event.


NOTE 3: Thread created and posted at 9:38am (all times here are the time-stamps from the site)


NOTE 4: The following usernames are of alleged locals:  “summer5”….used to live in Danbury.  (User account has been since deleted), “Nighthawk1954”lives one town away in Trumbull, CT (User account has since been deleted).  This user had many posts on GodLikeProductions “GLP” after this event also…but had a different username I believe.


December 14, 2012

10:01am – 1 officer injured -  Nighthawk1954

10:06am – 1 teacher “shot in the foot” -  Nighthawk1954

10:14am – Image credit : Shannon Hicks/The Newtown Bee – “iconic photo of kids”

10:14am – witness told News8 she saw two children (1 with bloody face, the other with hand injury) (Nighthawk1954)

10:16am – reports that the principal was shot and killed.

10:22am – “confirmed 2 gunman…one killed”  - Nighthawk1954

10:24am – suspect led out of woods in handcuffs.  Summer5 – “Witness says”

10:26am – news on all CT and NY TV stations now –nighthawk1954

10:28am – “mass casualties” – from a friend on FB – summer5

10:30am – Monroe schools now in lock down –nighthawk1954

10:33am – Bethel schools now in lock down – summer5

10:35am – one child killed was reported – nighthawk1954

10:46am – Hartford Courant reports “multiple deaths”

10:48am – twitter from @mpoppel

10:48am – News-Times report one casualty could be the principal

10:48am – CNN reports SWAT units on the roof of SHES

10:55am – police scanner “helicopter is following a purple/maroon van into Danbury” – summer5

11:00am – Nighthawk1954 reports friend and daughter are safe at the firehouse

11:03am – all MSM reports “unconfirmed multiple fatalities”

11:03am – Purple van occupants are armed.  “do not approach” from summer5, who’s friend works for the Danbury PD.  First time we hear they are “dressed as nuns”

11:06am – “I have a call in to a friend of mine who’s on the SWAT team.”  - nighthawk1954

11:08am – Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton tells WABC that three victims are at the Danbury hospital with “very serious conditions”

11:13am – DPD surround maroon van at 33 Crosby Street in Danbury. – summer5

11:17am – news conference expected at 1pm – nighthawk1954

11:19am – curious Channel 12 helicopter cameraman stays on the school, while everyone else is focusing on the firehouse at the time.

11:22am – channel 12 camera goes back to other building but the “feed is pulled” from him.

11:25am – phychiatrist dead, principal dead, and vice principal was shot

11:29am – principal is a very good friend of a friend of mine – summer5

11:36am – ABC affiliates say more than 12 dead.

11:40am – 27 dead – someone comments “and not a single drop of blood”

11:45am – nighthawk1954 says be believes his neighbor’s kid was killed.

11:47am – HLN said 2nd shooter led out of woods in handcuffs.

11:53am – It was a classroom – nighthawk1954

11:53am – dispatch says one teacher was  shot in the foot – Dr at the hospital says they’ve treated only 3 patients so far.  Summer5

11:58am – TKDRL says “I’ve got some cousins that go to SHES”

12:01pm –my friend who owns the Pub25 restaurant a mile from the scene– nighthawk1954

12:01pm – a poster says I’m confused, all the reports are different?

12:03pm – TV says 27 dead, 18 are kids and 3 shooters –TKDRL


Page 10 of the thread…

12:10pm – “facebook is blowing up”

12:10pm – nighthawk1954 says, “I know a lot of newtown firemen”

12:18pm – Rueters reports “an entire kindergarten class is unaccounted for.”

12:20pm – shooter was a 20 year old…..2nd person in custody

12:22pm – shooter, a 24 year old with 4 weapons and bulletproof vest

12:23pm – ABC says age 24 with 4 guns….NBC says 20 year old with 2 guns.

12:23pm – gunman is a parent of a child at the school.

12:26pm – gunman, age 24 from New Jersey with 4 guns

12:30pm – confirmed, “My buddies neighbor’s daughter was killed. – nighthawk1954

12:31pm – gunman was 20 – summer5

12:35pm – “I smell BS” says one user “I saw someone led out of the school in cuffs, then the feed was cut….another guy in the woods and one dead….?  (DH comment:  Man led out of the school was Rick Thorn said Dennis Stratford.   “Stratford said police had handcuffed Rick Thorn, the school custodian, because he was the only living male in the school and they were certain because of the awful carnage that there had to be more than one shooter. “I vouched for the custodian, a great guy, and got him a blanket,” Stratford says.

12:37pm – maroon van doesn’t seem to be related

12:38pm – confirmed….by user “shaneslaughta” I saw them bringing someone OUT of the school in cuffs.

12:39pm – nighthawk1954 reports his “friend in the SWAT team” says it’s bad, real bad

12:40pm – vehicle cordoned off at the scene has NJ Plates -

12:42pm – school girl interviewed recalls hearing 7 loud“booms” when she was in the gym.

12:44pm – scene has been secured – LT. Paul Vance

12:46pm – one girl at school reports “seeing her teacher gunned down right before my eyes.”

12:49pm – “confirmed” it was a kindergarten class –nighthawk1954

12:57pm – FOX News confirms shooter was 20 yr old

1:02pm – CBS news reports a body at the home of the shooter.

1:06pm – shooter was the father of one of the students? –summer5

1:08pm – multiple search warrants being carried out


Page 20 of the thread…

1:12pm – shooter’s name – ryan lanza

1:15pm – ryan was an honor student?  What?

1:22pm – shooter used to live in newtown area when he was a kid.

1:24pm – CBS News confirms that shooter’s mother was a teacher at the school- she is one of the dead.

1:26pm – confirmed that shooter’s name is ryan lanza

1:27pm – FOX news is saying the previous report of the 20-year old shooter was “false”….and in fact the guy is 24.

1:27pm – Police scanner says, “someone at st rose church in newtown may cause harm”

1:29pm – address is Hoboken, NJ – father died at the scene,mother died in newtown. Posted by JBA2848

1:30pm – “suspect in church in newtown, “claiming he’s going to injure himself”  Police en route via live scanner feed

1:30pm – suspect is ryan lanza at SHES, wearing military vest and multiple weapons including .223 rifle.

1:39pm – comment asks…so he kills his father in Hoboken,drives to newtown to kill 26 including his mother, and then himself?   Should have been in an insane asylum years ago!

1:39pm – report that the kindergarten class students were lined up and killed execution style.

1:41pm – police swarm the st rose of lima church on church hill road.

1:41pm – WCBS reports that shooter’s mother was a teacher at the school

1:42pm – reports of a new Facebook page for RIP to the killer.  WTF?

1:43pm – CBS confirms shooter’s name as Ryan Lanza

1:44pm – new feed shows a reporter at the Lanza home saying the neighbors said police were there at 9:15am and evacuated the neighborhood.    Taped off the area and surrounded the home.

1:45pm – poster thinks the above post relates to the father’s apartment in Hoboken, NJ.

1:47pm – Ryan Lanza’s FB page is filling up with hate and anger by posters.

1:49pm – Obama press release set for 3:15pm

1:49pm – reporter in Hoboken, NJ says the apartment is wired with explosives and booby-trapped.  Weapons are handguns and AR-15?  (similar to James Holmes case)  based on live feed via

1:51pm – all news outlets now report it was an AR-15.

1:52pm – I thought it was a Bushmaster .223?

1:52pm – confirmed only two handguns – 9mm Glock and Sig Sauer

1:54pm – WCBS-TV say “officials say two pistols found (sig and glock) and Bushmaster found in the vehicle.”

1:54pm – weapons, suspect and car all trace back to suspect

1:57pm – AP Source: shooter is the older 24 year old….younger brother is being held.

2:00pm – FOX News has Megan Kelly discussing mental health issues in the U.S.

2:03pm – someone posts, so only 30 minutes between when he left Hoboken, NJ and killed everyone in Newton?

2:06pm – both parents found dead in their home – FOX News

2:07pm – someone says, the Ryan Lanza FB page is now gone.  No screen shot done but he had 109 friends.

2:10pm – conflicting reports of shooter’s age….still 20 and 24.

2:11pm – someone calls the Lanzas the “Menendez brothers”

2:15pm – posts and tweets from Ryan saying  “It wasn’t me!”


Page 30 of the thread…

2:16pm – Ryan’s page was pulled from FB….not deleted…

2:17pm – first pics of Ryan Lanza emerge on the thread

2:17pm – research of Lanza family does NOT show another sibling in family other than Ryan.

2:19pm – Ryan Lanza’s “girlfriend” and “another friend” are“missing” in NJ.

2:22pm – Source – “One of his brothers has been found dead.”

2:23pm – Heavy police presence at 13th and Grand Streets in Hoboken, NJ.

2:26pm – CNN reports brother is dead in Hoboken, NJ

2:27pm – people getting pissed at MSM because of all the mis-info

2:30pm – WCBS-TV reports that children were found hiding in closets.

2:32pm – Two roommates of the shooter are now being questioned.

2:35pm – new user posts that this thread has the quickest and best info on the case, good work.

2:35pm – It was adam not ryan

2:36pm – FOX News is saying Adam Lanza not Ryan Lanza

2:37pm – the commenter on the Ryan Lanza page was Jonathan

2:39pm – every search for Lanza’s family comes up with only mom/dad/ryan.

2:42pm – FOX News says Ryan is in“custody”

2:45pm – Governor press conference – Lt Vance confirms 1 injured.

2:47pm – someone posts about why no mention of man in the church, man in the woods or man taken from the school?

2:48pm – quote:  I heard gunshots and I saw policemen. My teacher was scared and a little shaky. We went into the office and police came and took us into the firehouse.”

2:51pm – Nighthawk1954 is back…turns out another friend of his lost his grandchild.   Nighthawk

“puked his brains out” and then talks about “time to have a big drink!”  (Note by DH:  strange)

2:53pm – Nighthawk1954 – warns parents with young kids NOT to watch the news please.

2:55pm – summer5 is back and posting again….re-iterates that his friend is friends with principal.

2:58pm – Nighthawk1954 posts that they did find out that 9 kids were saved by hiding in a closet.

2:59pm – shooter died of self-inflicted gunshot wound – WCBS-TV

3:00pm – Nighthawk confirms that his friend also heard about the “execution style murders”

3:00pm – one poster says early on, when the dead count was at 17, they said the suicide dude was found in his car, a white Ford –dead.  Was this report related to a different suicide today?

3:01pm – CNN no longer saying the suspect is Ryan, - but related to the case, a school in New Mexico is in“lockdown”  (Gadsden School District)

3:05pm – user posts this:  I Was on Channel 3 Eyewitness NewsLivestream, and the reporter said that eye witness accounts saw someone coming out of/going into the woods, wearing camo pants, and according to the reports the shooter was also wearing camo pants.

3:21pm – Nighthawk1954 – announces a gathering in Trumbull tonight at 7pm

3:32pm – Ryan brought in for questioning, but is NOT a suspect.

3:40pm – reports coming in that the guns were registered to Nancy Lanza


Page 40 of the thread…

3:54pm- CBS is reporting the“need” for new gun legislation

3:57pm- shooter was“developmentally disabled”

3:58pm – one user still can’t find an Adam Lanza in the family.

4:12pm – 4chan showed a page for someone posted that a lot of people will die on Friday….just now you get a 404-page not found error.

4:13pm – Ryan Lanza now blocking everyone on FB and was receiving threats on his wall.  (why would someone be so concerned about his social pages, if he was informed his mother was killed.)

4:37pm – FOX News states that Ryan Lanza’s girlfriend is missing.

4:38pm – Source says “shooter was in black battle fatigues and a military vest.”  Source also says  ”the Bushmaster found at the scene, is a semi-automatic weapon.”

4:48pm – father, Peter is“cooperating with the FBI”  (on the TVnews)

4:48pm – FOX News reports that Peter, the father, is indeed alive

4:48pm – username “waltdisney”calls this whole thing a hoax….after watching a 3rd grader give an interview on TV…

5:02pm – user Nighthawk1954 lashes into ‘waltdisney” saying you have no class.

5:03pm – Obama’s press conference….lots of comments regarding “no tears”….people are now suspicious.

5:04pm – regarding the request to“ban” the user ‘waltdisney’, they respond with this “I won’t be banned for voicing my opinion on a conspiracy theory website. “

This is an obvious false flag event. No blood, B - list actors, crying president etc.

The only difference from the 1999 Columbine Massacre, is that they got a 3rd grader to speak as a witness this time. Good effort, but she is way too calm having just had 20 classmates murdered at her school.  Go watch Obama's speech....what tears is he wiping away??  Completely fake.

5:06pm – first posts come in relating this to Nazi Germany 1933.

5:10pm – one user writes, “this is more-than-likely a distraction”

5:13pm – MSNBC confirms that mother is found dead in her home.

5:18pm – Nighthawk1954 posts,“crap, another firefighter friend of mine lost a kid at sandy hook….this is worse than when I worked at 9/11.   I’m so depressed.”

5:22pm – Nighthawk1954, posts “my friend from SWAT called me and says there is blood and guts all over the building.”

5:25pm – father, Peter Lanza,lives in Stamford, CT and declines to comment.

5:27pm – Eric Holder just made a statement

5:28pm – one poster commented that on CNN that haven’t recently shown to footage of the boy saying “they had a man on the ground and he was handcuffed.”  Why has that been pulled?

5:31pm – Nighthawk1954 posts that he is now leaving for the Trumbill candlelight vigil.

5:31pm – paperbackwriter(username, all of their posts are pretty good)  posts: This is the worst case of misinformation and disinformation I have ever seen.  That is a huge error not easily explained away by saying it's a mixed up ID like the alleged brothers.


Page 50 of the thread…

5:46pm – Ryan hasn’t had“contact” with Adam in several years. How did he get the ID?  

5:47pm – post:  According to a neighbor, Lanza and his wife were married fairly recently. While his wife has lived in the neighborhood for at least a decade, Lanza only moved in a few years ago, at about the time they got married

5:47pm – paperbackwriter posts a“shot” on user “Nighthawk1954”… you know a lot of people in this case!

5:49pm – post shows the divorce date of the Lanzas as November, 2009.

5:49pm – user posts the connection to Representative John Frey (twitter @johnfrey) He was at the holiday concert the night before cheering on his nieces (bridget and joan).

Screen shot of Ryan Lanza’s facebook page:

6:00pm – paperbackwriterposts:  There are multiple clues.

  • Obama fake crying
  • Children laughing in parking lot
  • No blood, anywhere or on anyone
  • Very, very small town
  • Completely isolated school
  • Directly after Oregon Mall shooting
  • Hurricane Sandy/Sandy Hook Elementary
  • Explosive twitter reaction from Gov/Mediaoutlets
  • Members of US Gov. attended the Sandy Hook concert yesterday,  even going out of their way to TWEET it to the world. Coincidentally, 27 people would get killed there the next day.

6:13pm – paperbackwriter asks,“how long before they start asking us to start donating to the families?”

6:43pm – username LLLightscomments that she is from Connecticut and all of this IS real….signed, G.

7:02pm – police audio is out….one poster comments on the quote  “two shadows running in the hall”

7:18pm – Bill O’Reilly about to interview a 3rd grade survivor (a girl).


Page 60 of the thread…

7:42pm – brother of Nancy Lanza is “James Champion” a Kingston Police Officer.

8:03pm – shooter wore “a mask”why?

8:19pm – someone posts, “This is a watershed moment….a black swan moment.”

8:31pm – a piece from CNN says,that adam was on the 9th grade honor roll.   He could not have been developmentally disabled, at least not in the traditional sense.

8:35pm – Alex Israel , a former classmate of Adam Lanza, described him as genius and “way ahead” of his classmates.

(interview on Piers Morgan)

8:42pm – report from Yahoo News:  a relative said “adam was obviously not well”  Family friends in Newtown describe Nancy as “rigid” and Adam was described as “troubled”

8:45pm – one poster says, she heard that Nancy Lanza was only a substitute teacher at the school.

9:18pm - A parent interviewed on CBS News told the network that his 8-year-old daughter said she heard an argument and cursing over the school’s loudspeaker, apparently coming from the principal’s office. Her teacher then immediately locked the classroom door as a safety precaution.

9:19pm – Nancy was a “volunteer”at the school, NOT a substitute teacher.

9:21pm – a post says, “This whole thing stinks to high heaven.”

9:21pm – FOX News and “greta” are saying that a “team of medical examiners” will work through the night to note the injuries, remove the bullets and identify each person.

9:25pm – some user finds the article regarding SHES getting a new security system installed.

9:31pm – Paperbackwriter states we don’t know of an existence of any “adam lanza” except for a photo from like 8th grade.

9:37 p.m.: A Sig Sauer and a Glock semi automatic handgun were used in the slaying and that .223 shell casings – a round used in a semi automatic military style rifle – were also found


Page 70 of the thread…

9:42pm – CNN Reports: Three weapons were recovered from the school: a semi-automatic .223 Bushmaster found in a car in the school parking lot, and a Glock and a Sig Sauer found with Lanza's body, a law enforcement official familiar with the investigation said. The weapons were legally purchased by Lanza's mother, the official said.

9:44pm – post by a user:  I'm not claiming any conspiracy, but it does amaze me how news programs can already have tribute specials airing within 9 hours of an event like this. I flipped on 20/20 just now and they're doing a special about the shooting, the victims, etc. They already have tons of interviews, fancy graphics, statistics and the history of some of the victims when just hours ago we didn't know anything about them. It just blows my mind how quickly they can throw together something like this.

9:46pm - How long did it take LE to enter the school? Reports have been saying the first ones there"waited" for State Police to arrive before entering.

10:01pm - Nancy Lanza was apart-time substitute at the school, according to a parent.

10:10pm – the reporting could be on purpose in a sort of “psychological warfare”…they are keeping the Lone-Gunman killer center on this story…, but getting everything else wrong to the left and right of this story.

10:20pm - “I live in the next town over”… kids were also in lock down. Username: SyrinxHighPriest

10:31pm – Info released on the school psychologist via CNN “Professionally, she'd worked in three Connecticut school systems before settling in as school psychologist at Sandy Hook Elementary

Before becoming a school psychologist, she worked as a rehabilitation assistant at a psychiatric facility, at a group home for disabled adults and as a community mental health placement specialist.

Her experience in education included stints in the Redding, North Haven and New Haven public school systems before landing at Sandy Hook Elementary in 1994. During her time in Newtown,Sherlach kept busy as a member of numerous groups such as the district conflict resolution committee, safe school climate committee, crisis intervention team and student instructional team.

10:35pm - Info on the Grandmother:  LANZA , Frances, 83, of Ft. Lauderdale, a resident for over 20 years coming from Queens, NY, died Saturday, April 27,2002. Predeceased by husband of 59 years, Salvatore, and 3 children, Dennis,James and Florence. Survived by sons and daughters-in-law, Peter and Nancy Lanza, Robert and Dolores Lanza, all of Ft. Lauderdale and Ronald and Barbara Lanza of West Islip, NY; son-in-law, James Gould of NJ; brother, Charles Sollaof Longwood, FL; sister, Ellen Privitera of West Islip; 11 grandchildren and 13 great grandchildren. PANCIERA MEMORIAL HOME 4200 Hollywood Blvd. Hollywood, FL33021 954-989-9900

10:30pm – users are starting to question this because there is no motive…..raises a red flag.

10:41pm – response from paperbackwriter regarding the latest article from CNN:  “All that does is conflict with a previous story of the shooter arguing with the principal over the intercom in the office.”

Who is the vice principal and whydid they come back alive.

Isn't it convenient that there was a parent there unnamed to give us this new narrative?

11:00pm – more discussion now on MKUltra and programming…

11:08pm – FOX Radio is now saying“the principal buzzed him into the school” because she knew him as the “son of a colleague”

11:08pm – Ms.  Lanza was NOT on the school roster in any capacity

11:10pm – comes out the next door neighbor is the CEO at Newtown Savings Bank. (DH comment:  This is John F. Trentacosta.  Link for 2012 Annual Report:

11:19pm – front window at school was “shattered or shot”.

11:26pm – someone posts that MSM is now a “disinfo machine”

11:30pm – first discrepancies come forth  “Radio dispatches and broadcasts between emergency responders tell part of the difficult story about what occurred during the morning of the deadly school shooting spree that left 27 people dead, including 20 children in Newtown”

11:49pm – someone mentions a connection to the “Paladin Group.” This is a good example of a secretive mercenary squad for hire. This particular group named was created by ex SS NAZIs in Spain after ww2 , they were even members of the World Anti Communist League, had connections with everyone, Vatican, CI, Sun Myung Moon, etc etc.Involved in civil wars, insurrections, coups, etc.  These are the types I’d image have no problem shooting a bunch of kids for political reasons.


December 15, 2012

12:39am - "Largest school shooting in US history" says the media. Sounds like something of a rallying-cry to me. – says one poster

12:51am - this whole thing stinks like a black op. – says one poster

12:54am - there are soo many inconsistencies in this thing i dont even know where to begin – says one poster

1:18am - the more i look into it this adam lanza seems to be about as illusive as the wizard of oz – says one poster

1:18am - "Another neighbor of the Lanza family said that the family had a quiet presence in the neighborhood. “I wouldn’t know them if they drove right by me,” he said. “We know all the neighbors but them.” – quote from a story form the International Business Times

1:35am - “Riddlesinthedark” posts– “i have inside info about this thing, the school is pissing distance from me and i have a source employed in the school in question being told to not talk to anyone about what they know. if you dont want to hear the details then you obviously aren’t interested in the truth”

1:38am – 11 minutes of police scanner audio put on YouTube

3:02am – first post from someone asking if there is a connection to the Fairfield Hills Mental Hospital in Newtown?

3:03am – someone posts they aired some of the audio from the school including “two shadows running past the hall”section.

3:07am – article from CNN:  “Alex Israel was in the same class at Newtown High School with Adam Lanza, who lived a few houses down from her.  "You could definitely tell he was a genius," Israel told CNN, adding she hadn't talked with him since middle school. "He was really quiet, he kept to himself."


Page 80 of the thread…

6:30am – one poster writes:  “Marsha the [Aunt] said the mother had a facebook page, but I can't seem to find it. I looked up the whole family and can't find Marsha or Nancy. All the cousins are on there, but their profiles are mum about the incident. Only a few keep in touch with each other. Was trying to link to Ryan and Adam's profile but Ryan doesn't even link to his mother or brother.   Oh well.  So much for that.

7:44am – this from the poster“Manhater” - According to court documents, Peter Lanza was required to send significant alimony payments to Nancy Lanza, including monthly payments of$10,000 a month and increasing to a minimum of $12,450 up until 2023. The court documents list Peter Lanza's gross weekly income as $8,556 and that he was required to pay all of Adam Lanza's college and graduate school expenses. It wasn't immediately clear, however, if Lanza was attending college at the time of the shooting. Peter and Nancy Champion Lanza were married in 1981 in Kingston, N.H. According to a report Friday on the website of the Tampa Bay Times, Nancy Lanza's mother has a winter home in Brookville, Fla. In the article, she acknowledged to a reporter over the phone that Adam and his brother Ryan are her grandchildren. Her Facebook page links to two sons, Jack and James Champion.

7:45am – interview with Adam Lanza’s aunt, who lives in Crystal Lake. (DH comment, I believe this was Marsha, an aunt on the Champion side of the family.)

7:46am – a post from someone linking an article from the Washington Post: Here are some quotes:

“Beth Israel, who lived for a time on the same street as the Lanzas, recalled Adam Lanza as withdrawn, but not threatening in any way.  (DH comment– Beth Israel, 43 is the mother of Alex Israel, the student the same age as Adam)

Richard Wilford’s 7-year-old son,Richie, is in the second grade at the school. His son told him that he heard a noise that “sounded like what he described as cans falling.”

Parent Stephen Delgiadice told the AP that his 8-year-old daughter heard two big bangs and teachers told her to get in a corner. His daughter was fine.

In interview with New York’s WABC television, student Brendan Murray said he was in the gym when he heard a banging sound. Students at first thought a custodian had knocked something over, but then they heard a scream.

“Then a police came in and was like, ‘Is he in here?’ Then he ran out,” Murray said. “And then somebody yelled, ‘Get to a safe place!’ So we went to the closet in the gym.”

Meredith Artley, managing editor of, described interviewing a woman who was at the school about 9:30 or 9:35 a.m. The woman was in a meeting with the principalvice principal and school psychologist when they heard shots from the hall. The three school officials went into the hallway, and the vice principal came crawling back,shot in the foot, Artley said. LINK:

8:10am – Nancy Lanza’s brother is Jim Champion – a cop from New Hampshire.

8:11am – Nancy Lanza’s FB page is gone

8:12am – one poster says…”They were looking for a second shooter for almost 3 hours before telling us all' officially' that 'the public is safe'

8:26am - KPLU reports that “One of the officials said earlier Friday that a girlfriend of one of the Lanza brothers and another friend were missing in New Jersey. Subsequently, the third official said police had talked with the girlfriend. One of the friends had to be reached in California, so it took some time.”

8:33am – Nighthawk1954 posts - The candlelight vigil at the gazebo was a beautiful service here in the town of Trumbull. We prayed for the families, the victims and the first responders. I had two friends that lost loved ones and the family of Mary Sherlach.  Mary was a Trumbull resident who was the school psychologist at Sandy Hook School. Her daughters, Maura and Katie, and her husband, Bill, will need our support and our prayers to help them through. God bless all the families who have been touched by this horrible event. May God hold them in His arms and may those who lost loved ones take comfort in knowing that their loved ones are safe in the arms of our Lord. God bless them all.

8:33am – post by “nowayreally” The 'purple van' was supposedly found with a group of 'armed men dressed as nuns' yesterday in Danbury and I can tell you that that did not happen- at least where the MSM said it did. I was two blocks away and there were no cop cars on or near that area.

8:35am - Post by TKDRL - My aunt's boyfriend said the same exact thing. (regarding the van/armed nuns)

9:03am – press conference to begin shortly – (running two hours late)

9:04am – Post from Paperbackwriter - Quote from the “Daily Beast” - News organizations are trying to be as responsible as possible while still providing details of the tragedy.The narrative being pieced together is that Adam Lanza, who is from Newtown,traveled to a family home in Hoboken, N.J., yesterday, and killed at least one person there before going back to Connecticut. It is believed that one victims Lanza’s father. Lanza’s girlfriend and a friend are reported missing in New Jersey.

9:04am – post from a‘prepper’,  I am a prepper and the very first thing that popped out at me about this was the mention of the NEW AR-15 this mother had. A Bushmaster no less. Thats a $1500 weapon that is a main staple of the prepper movement. There were no avid hunters living with this woman and the two 9mm pistols seem enough for home why the AR??

9:05am – from Nighthawk1954 –  “Wear Yellow & Blue Monday! Those are Sandy Hook Elementary School colors.  SPREAD THE WORD!”

9:14am - "Peter Lanza, a vice president of taxes for GE Energy Financial Services, declined to answer questions from reporters in front of his home in Stamford in the Westover section of the city.

Lanza has worked as tax specialist and had served as an adjunct professor at Northeastern University in Boston since 1995."

9:31am – good post here:  I beg to differ. I was watching live newsfeed when they removed the rifles from the car. The only information that has not changed is the fact that two 9mm guns were used and only those. The State Police spokesperson said during every press briefing that two handguns were used and only two handguns.

Dont wanna be confrontational here, but I did say it was a theory, not fact. We have 90 pages of pure speculation here and we are all using the info available. The loadout was mention of anything else has happened.

9:32am – post from paperbackwriter – “just heard at the presser (before I lost my live feed at Ustream), that according to the spokesperson, "I know it sounds suspicious, but yes LE broke a lot of windows getting in."  The shooter forced entry.  Well, heck, that sure refutes the witnesses on the scene at the office who claim the principal buzzed him in!   Wow what a load off the school board's mind!Think of the lawsuits that would have ensued if that had been the case.

9:37am – post from Nighthawk1954- First grade teacher Kaitlyn Roig tells ABC she rushed 15 kids into a bathroom and barricaded the door to keep them safe after the shooting erupted.

“Suddenly, I heard rapid fire…like an assault weapon. I knew something was wrong,” Roig, 29, told “World News” anchor Diane Sawyer Friday.

“It was horrific,” she said. “I didn’t think we were going to live.”

9:41am – paperbackwriter - I must say I am still trying to grasp how more than a hundred bullets fired has translated into numerous witnesses using the same exact phraseology of hearing a, "pop, pop, pop" to describe what they heard.

9:46am – Nighthawk1954 posts – “Look what this idiot posted on his web site! “:

EVENT was a DRILL. No children are dead. Stop believing these lies produced by the Greenberg family who just so happens to live close by on FlowerFarm ln. You will see the business Hoffman contracting is registered to Tony Greenbergs Home at #12 Flower Farm ln. Look in that direction for clues to who is behind the scenes pulling the strings.

Also I have identified the Governor and will be releasing his real identity shortly. 'This event is an attempt to divert your attention away from the identity of the recent Mall shooter who is a family member and son of Joan Kaplan (AKA Morning Mayan on the Alex Jones Show)

9:55am – paperbackwriter tries to get Nighthawk to spill the beans on his friends names:  
“I don't suppose you people who know people personally would be willing to share the names of these parents who lost kids. They will be releasing the names shortly anyway and it would be a tremendous boost to your credibility.  I personally cringe when I see brother's cousin's neighbor's boss's uncle's kind of links.  Last name only, please. No first name of parent or child.

9:57am – response from Nighthawk1954 - No I will not do that till it is made public by the State Police.

9:59am – response from paperbackwriter - Because you and they are the only ones who know?  Surely not. I would imagine that among 27 people that many hundreds already know.

10:07am – response from Nighthawk1954 - That's probably true...But I respect their privacy! I spent most of the night with 2 of my friends that lost loved is not the time.

10:13am – response from paperbackwriter - Why, were they at the vigil? I wouldn't go to one if I had lost a child.

I wouldn't be talking to anybody,not even my friends, not right away, anyway. Not the same day they were murdered.

10:18am – Informative post here from “MisterMaster”:

Here is a bit more to muddy the waters lol.

Before all the FB pages and other social media accounts were removed, I documented them all with screen shots.Both brothers shared some friends on FB. I looked at every open FB account of those friends I could in the hopes I could find anyone who possibly knew or maybe even involved because early on I was under the assumption there were two shooters.

One guy stood out to me. Friends with both and lives in Lakewood NJ. He studied CIS at Temple University.  Strangely, only two people subscribed to his page....both Lanza brothers.  What topics was this dude interested in you ask?  His FB page is full of only one thing...guns, pics of shooting guns,anti-government propoganda, extremely violent statements, and hatred of the USA for trying to ban assault rifles.  This is fact, I can prove it, and will gladly post his name if it is not against posting rules. Someone inform me if I can post the name and go look at his FB page if it’s still up.  Some of this dudes favorite books are Nazi propaganda books from the 20's-50's.  Included were the works of Hesse, Hitlers Mein Kampf, Marx, just to name a few.   Fave games...D+D, Magic the Gathering, COD Black Ops.  Initials of this FB friend are JH  (DH Comment: This person’s name is Josh Halloway)

10:23am – MisterMaster writes:  I agree with your post minus a few things. She wasn't a rancher. There are no coyotes in Connecticut. She is not farmer. Shes an older woman who absolutely cannot handle the recoil of a.223 who lives in a middle class suburb with no viable reason besides perhaps prepper material.

I mean come on people...what makes more friggin sense here??? That this woman is an avid coyote hunter and does so with an ar-15 which has a recoil like a 16 ga shotgun. Or she keeps it for a just in case scenario?

Seems you are reaching in order to disprove a simple thoery I posted. Ar 15's cannot be used for anything in the state of Conn besides just ownership. Please quit it with the nonsense please.

10:30am – MisterMaster: what i want to know about is the guy found in the woods with camo pants and a blacktop, who reportedly screamed i didn't do it, as we was led away in handcuffs.with a dead mother, possibly dead father, and the dead gunman, its carte blanche for the powers that be to say whatever they want about this situation to fit their desired outcome. my guess is the colorado shooting wasn’t shocking enough to get people to be outraged it would take the slaughter of children.

…back to my point.....anyone have info about the guy in the woods? also there was a report of a red van with a busted out window that was fleeing the scene....

10:33am – Nighthawk1954 - The guy in the woods was cutting red van.

10:42am - Post by Nighthawk1954 -News release: STATE POLICE INVESTIGATE NEWTOWN SCHOOL SHOOTING

Guns used have become standard in mass shootings
The guns recovered at the scene, two pistols and a semi-automatic rifle, are the types that have become standard weapons of recent mass-shooting incidents.

The two pistols, a Glock and a Sig Sauer, are popular with law enforcement officers and the military. These mi-automatic rifle, a variation of the AR-15 (which is itself modeled on the U.S. military's Vietnam-era standard M-16), is made by Bushmaster in Ilion,N.Y., near Utica. The weapons were purchased legally by the alleged shooter's mother, according to reports.

11:27am – from TKDRL (a local guy)- Lol someone shot me a PM, asking how I seem to have so many aunts and uncles. My father was one of 12 kids, his family was also really close with his uncle's family, a family of nine. So on that side I have 11 biological aunts/uncles, and also 9 other people that I have always referred to as aunts/uncles,even though they are technically second cousins I think that makes them? The mom has 5 sisters, so there is another 5 aunts. Hope that clears it up.

11:39am – paperbackwriter -  I was just doing some background on Victoria Soto.   She is a teacher who dove in front of the shooter to protect the kids, so I read.   I wondered how she knew that he wouldn't just shoot her and the kids anyway?  How did she determine that by doing so she was saving them and sacrificing herself?  Of course I made an attempt to see if she had a fib but already there were only tribute pages.  I saw this photo on one :No It says the photo was taken January 25, 2012. That looks like odd dress for Connecticut that time of year.  More like South American Summer.  How do I know this is who she is? There are oodles of people with that name.  Had the media and LE been more forthright in this case I wouldn't feel compelled to investigate every angle.

11:ma – it comes out now that the “intercom was switched on” during the entire shooting

11:54am – Nighthawk1954 - How to Help Families Affected by Newtown School Shooting .  People all over the world want to know how to help Sandy Hook residents following Friday's horrifying mass shooting. Post"I want to help" in this comment thread to get updates on what you can do.

12:pm – The Today Show - NBC’s Pete Williams reported Saturday on the Today Show that Adam Lanza was allegedly involved in an altercation at Sandy Hook Elementary School the day before the shooting.

Attempting to answer the question of why Lanza may have chosen this particular school, Williams stated that it has been confirmed now that Lanza’s mother did not work full-time at the school, despite previous reports.

However, officials told NBC that on Thursday, December 13, Lanza was involved in an “altercation” at the school which involved himself and four other staff membersOf the four, three were murdered in yesterday’s shooting spree and the fourth is currently being interviewed by federal and state investigators.  (DH Note: Three murdered were, the Principal (Hochsprung) the psychologist(Sherlach) and Vicki Soto.  The fourth is the secretary who stayed home on 12/14. It would be excellent to get the audio of this interview and to hear HER responses.)

12:27pm – good post here:  ” Isn't it pretty far out for the media to' speculate' that the shooter was 24 year old brother of the actual shooter? How do you think they came up with that idea? I doubt that they were checking his ID (actually his brother's) after the shooting. I would think that info came from law enforcement on scene.

How did they manage to speculate that the father's house was taped off before the school shooting because the son had shot him dead inside? That info would have come from where?

12:32pm - Police indicated today they have "some very good evidence" about the motive behind Adam Lanza's massacre at the Sandy Hook Elementary School and said that the sole person to survive being shot by Lanza will be "instrumental" in the probe.  (DH comment, this survivor was the vice-principal who was shot in the foot and treated at the hospital in Danbury).

12:48pm - Good post here from username “No suggestions” :  I've been searching for info this morning on answers to the following and reviewing all the posts since last night. Can't find an update. Does anyone have the answers for me? Much appreciated.

  • What happened to the story about the dead man in the NJ apt. originally thought to be Lanza's father?
  • What happened to the story about the missing girlfriend and another girl?
  • What happened to the story about the man in camo arrested near the woods?
  • What happened to the story about the person dressed as a nun in a red van?

12:pm – news reports:  Police said they have positively identified the victims and shooter but they are waiting to release the names until the medical examiner has finished work, expected shortly. The bodies have been moved from the school to the examiner's office.

1:00pm – paperbackwriter goes after Pete Williams:  This guy:

Prior to joining NBC, Williams served as a press aide on Capitol Hill and at the Pentagon for a number of years. In 1986 he joined the Washington, D.C. staff of then Congressman Dick Cheney as press secretary and legislative assistant.[2] In 1989, when Cheney was named Secretary of Defense, Williams was appointed Assistant Secretary of Defense for Public Affairs, and served as Pentagon Press Secretary. While in that position as the Pentagon's principal spokesman, Williams was named Government Communicator of the Year in 1991 by the National Association of Government Communicators.

While serving as a Pentagon spokesperson, some in the press accused him of allegedly working to conceal certain military activities during the invasion of Panama and successful extradition of Panamanian dictator Manuel Noriega, which was later featured in the documentary The Panama Deception. He was outed as a homosexual by Michelangelo Signorile.[3]

Yeah, they need to have him"discover" this new twist of a "confrontation".  We know some state senator tweeted how he attended a concert then also.  I suppose they want us to think that Adam went to some third grade Christmas program?  And a teacher suddenly recalled it, when they've been thanking and thanking how they were going to  tie him to this school after the mommy/teacher story fell apart on them?  Thanks for posting that.


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1:15pm - last I heard,superintendent said the mother had no affiliation with the school, let alone a teacher, sub, or aide like was first reported – user TKDRL

1:19pm – someone comments on the odd phrase by a Connecticut State Police official:  "We're hopeful it will paint a complete picture"

1:42pm – someone posts this….Alex Jones show 12-14-12 Caller says a large numbers of high school students had been bused to a bowling alley that morning before the shooting broke out

1:42pm – found on another site:  “find_the_truth” says:

“Zero Dark Thirty” has too similar of a plot point to this – the bad guy switching his ID with his brother to confuse the authorities upon his death – the press last night suggested that he went to each child and shot them again at close range, just as the SEALs do to everybody in “Zero Dark Thirty”

1:46pm – first post appears regarding a possible connection to LIBOR case – involving Peter Lanza (DH note:  no connection)

2:20pm – someone finds this….The Daily Mail suggests that Lanza reportedly got into an altercation with members of staff including Principal Dawn Hochsprung,and teacher Victoria Soto

2:24pm – a post questions “if”there really WAS an altercation the day before.   Would be easy for an investigator to pul lthe public police file for the afternoon of the 13th.  More than likely there wasn’t police involved.  But 4 of the 5 who were“involved”in this alleged altercation are now dead.

2:27pm – more speculation on this quote:  CNN Justice Prod Terry Frieden:  “Sr law enforcement official familiar w/investigation says Ryan Lanza's brother found dead in Hoboken”

2:32pm - Questionable comment during the press conference:  “Something else, a clip on CNN (of today’s press conference) had some FBI guy (cannot remember who) saying " We didn’t know it was Adam until we searched the brothers home and found him there." YET we know the brother actually posted in facebook and was heading towards the scene on a Bus.  So the FBI guy flat out lied at a press conference- OR the brother was never "at work" and posting "I didn't do it" on his facebook page.

2:36pm – paperbackwriterposts.  Dad's house was in Stamford. So wasn't his house.  So who lived at the house in Hoboken where there WAS apparently a crime scene tape and body found?

2:36pm - I would love to know what became of the interview with Lanza's supposed girlfriend too, but we're not hearing anything on that right now either. No one has even released her name.

2:44pm – Carver interview – “all the bodies hit more than once.”

2:52pm – the dead teachers are touted as hero’s:  Newtown school superintendent Janet Robinson told reporters that the two educators and other staff members had put themselves in harm’s way to protect children once it became clear the school was under siege.  "The teachers were really, really focused on saving their students," Robinson said.

2:55pm – The “girlfriend” is confirmed to be in a relationship with Ryan, NOT Adam.  No name has been given.

3:00pm - Some names were already being disclosed by family members, including teachers Lauren Rousseau, 30, and Vicki Soto, 27.

3:46pm – one post makes this comment:  Last night on 20/20 one of the teachers said she heard "repetitive gun fire" That leads me to believe that it was automatic.

3:47pm – Drudge reports that According to drudge "Nancy Lanza was an avid gun collector and regularly target shot with her family."

4:17pm – Regarding the strange facebook pages… MisterMaster:  The page you are referring to is missing all data. There’s only two pictures left and zero posts. If we are speaking of the same page, there was tons more there yesterday before noon. All wall posts are now gone, as are dates of the update to the page which I find extremely rotten.

That same archived page has 23 pix and roughly 30 wall posts the way I have it. How can one remove pix and posts without the page showing an update!?

One more odd thing. Two of the younger brothers pages has a total of 12 pictures. Not one shows a girl. Infact, in all but two, he is alone. The two that has another person is the guy with the cammo pants. Weird.

In all seriousness honestly...the police have been through all this like me right? I mean, just cuz it sounds significant to me doesnt mean squat, but does anyone think I should contact someone regarding this guy??

I mean, this cats FB page was down 30 minutes after the MSM gave us a name. I just archived all friends pages that were open to the public the instant I got names offline...which got it ten full minutes before television reported it. Is it at all possible that no one involved in the investigation knows of this man? Perhaps page was gone before they thought about it?   Am I bat# crazy?

4:22pm - Police have denied the claims by news media that Lanza was involved in any incident with the faculty last week (or the day before).

4:29pm – someone suggests that the Medical Examiner press conference needs “its own thread here” because of how strange it was.

4:30pm – Father of Emilie Parker to give press conference soon.

4:34pm - CBS news is reporting right now that all children were shot more than once....WITH A RIFLE.

4:36pm – a user posts comments on the similar behavior of Dr. Carver (Sandy Hook) compared to the Sheriff at the press conference for the Oregon Mall Shooting earlier in the week.

4:37pm - Adam Lanza did not even appear in his high school yearbook, that of the class of 2010. His spot on the page said, “Camera shy.” Others who graduated that year said they did not believe he had finished school.

4:38pm – Facebook page for Nancy’s brother James Champion and pic with his mother (Dorothy Hanson)

Some are saying this pic is Adam and his grandmother (NHS class of 2010)


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5:11pm – Names released. 

  • Charlotte Bacon, 6
  • Daniel Barden, 7
  • Rachel Davino, 29
  • Olivia Engel, 6
  • Josephine Gay, 7
  • Ana Marquez-Greene, 6
  • Dawn Hochsprung, 47
  • Dylan Hockley, 6
  • Madeline Hsu, 6
  • Catherine Hubbard, 6
  • Chase Kowalski, 7
  • Nancy J Lanza
  • Jesse Lewis, 6
  • James Mattioli, 6
  • Grace McDonnell, 7
  • Anne Marie Murphy, 52
  • Emilie Parker, 6
  • Jack Pinto, 6
  • Noah Pozner, 6
  • Caroline Previdi, 6
  • Jessica Rekos, 6
  • Avielle Richman, 6
  • Lauren Rousseau, 30
  • Mary Sherlach, 56
  • Victoria Soto, 27
  • Benjamin Wheeler, 6
  • Allison Wyatt, 6


5:17pm - 4chan post on the preceding Wednesday night:

5:21pm – comment regarding the president’s press conference:  All the deceased children were six or seven years of age. So why did the President say they were between 5 and 10 years old in his news conference? You'd think he at least would have the correct scoop.

5:31pm – Facebook pages MisterMaster says…One guy stood out to me. Friends with both and lives in Lakewood NJ. He studied CIS at Temple University.  Strangely, only two people subscribed to his page....both Lanza brothers

5:59pm – post by paperbackwriter- Hunting? Cutting wood? Why there? It is not that kind of a boondocks.  If he had been cutting wood, did they recover a chainsaw or axe? No.  Did they recover a firearm with the guy? That is the question. Because how unsafe and illegal do you think it would be to be hunting so close to a school?  So I don't think he was there doing either.  Although there is something so preselected about the location of this school that funnels down with a wooded border all around it.

6:05pm – MisterMaster:  I had all social media archived of the brothers and all available friends minutes before the television news gave the names. Salon scooped every msm outlet on that.

Also, it couldn't have been fake at all because 1) The pages all had updates in the days prior. 2) Theres no way for the shooter to subscribe to a FB page when he is dead. 3) There are two pictures in which this man and the shooter are seemingly doing some target practice.

6:33pm - Post by Dark Penguin: And I am not even saying this is a conspiracy (although I am leaning that way) but I have NEVER watched something go down like this . Having watched the event live I can honestly say there are lots and lots and lots of questions, doubts and disgust at the media.

6:40pm – more talk of the 4chan post…. Some say fake, some say real.

6:46pm – an “atta boy” post to Dark Penguin from paperbackwriter:  I've been digging your input on this thread. Yes indeed the official story, that is subject to change, isn't it.  The media and LE have both been actively changing it.  Or not and some staying with the old info.  This ensures that noone has a clear idea what is going on. If it's not a conspiracy, it's a darn good imitation of it.  I fear what will happen is that something else will happen and the media will turn it's glaring eye away and we will be left with a bunch of loose ends and no facts that can be nailed down forever and ever. All you will be able to sort of "prove" is what didn't happen.Not what did.

6:47pm – comments related the posts that have been deleted regarding the 4chan topic.   Now it turns out the entire thread regarding the 4chan stuff has been deleted.

6:50pm – more than likely the4 chan post was a hoax, but then why not throw the entire thread into the hoax bin, as protocol, why was it deleted?

8:28pm – paperbackwriter - Did rabid reporters rush them to release the names of victims before this evening?  So why did they rush as you call it to put out information that they knew was false and would have to backtrack on? I am not one to believe that this is done in error.  But, carefully crafted misinfo on purpose.Because they could have chosen not to. Nobody is forcing these anonymous unnamed sources from leaking this stuff out to the media.

8:41pm – Piers Morgan interviews Beth Israel – she knows the family and even mentions “adam’s mom was a kindergarten teacher.”  What?

8:48pm – word is that Westboro Baptist church might “protest” at the funerals. 

9:08pm – good post from MisterMaster - Ok people...I have more to muddy the waters for you. I apologize I cannot embed videos, but will post the source at bottom of post for all to watch. I saved it, I suggest other do too. On there is a video clip from NBC's Today show. Its 2 minutes long and my jaw dropped when I watched it. Confirmed by "multiple federal sources" that there were FOUR handguns collected from the school. Nothing BUT handguns were found and the reporter stresses this fact. The reporter goes on to say that the shooter did have an AR 15, but says that gun was left in the car and not fired.

This is after the ME has already said all wounds were caused by a rifle.   First two pistols, then only a rifle, now four pistols and no ar, but ME testified before the world and stated rifle.Wtff!!??   Now...I gotta imagine that journalists are relatively smart people...or at least educated. If they truly are being fed this erroneous information constantly, you'd think they'd get pissed off and say something...I would. After all, if I get no credibility as a journalist my career wouldn't last long.  I went to drudge. Clicked on headline about the shooter trying to buy a gun on Tuesday. Click link, vid is right there on  (DH comment: This relates to more Pete Williams disinfo)

9:30pm – The Guardian confirms that Nancy Lanza was part of a doomsday prepper community.

10:04pm – from MisterMaster -These media outlets were being fed great information very early on. The reports of those dead were listed at 27 just 20 minutes into it being breaking news.They also knew of the two handguns and ar15, as well as a very close estimate of shots fired.  Now obviously someone close to the initial investigation was leaking info...good info. So why then is the rest of the information...assumingly gotten from the same source....also giving blatant lies to reporters?

10:32pm - More on prepper and the aunt Marsha…Her former sister-in-law Marsha said she had turned her home ‘into a fortress’. She added: ‘Nancy had a survivalist philosophy which is why she was stockpiling guns. She had them for defense.

10:39pm – from paperbackwriter…..A Memorial page set up for Vicki Soto 4 days before the shooting. here contains the URL of the actual page that was since deleted.)  Page opened December 10.

10:48pm – paperbackwriter - I did a bit of research on Vicki earlier today and could not be sure she wasn't justa random pic.  The pic for her alleged"personal" page showed a short-sleeved summer pic but the metadata said it was taken in January!  Summertime in South America.  Now go to FB and see how many Vicki Sotos hail from...South America.  She's the teacher who herded kids into a closet, you know like we were told some of the kids said the policeman's who came by said to do.  And then she and she alone is shot in amongst the kids who are without a scratch.  Does that sound remotely plausible to you. It doesn't to me.

10:59pm – (regarding the Vicki Soto FB page) The page name was after the fact. It was created on Dec. 10th,but after the shooting the name was changed and it was turned into a memorial page for this person.  (Note:  it wasn’t a personal page at all, it was created as a fan page or a group page on Dec 10, and then changed the name of it.)

11:01pm – someone suggests, “So are we suggesting that the victims didn't exist?”

11:04pm- WeWillAllBeFree- posts that he has all the screen shots of the Vicki Soto FB page…


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11:26pm- from Starviego – Strangethings…

Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Scherlach, shocked by the sounds of gunfire and shattering glass, bolted into a corridor from a conference room across the hall from the classrooms.

I thought they were in the principal's office? Now it's a conference room?

--Dr Carver says the bodies of the 26 victims are all ready to be released and that parents were shown pictures, rather being taken to see the actual bodies, as they identified them.

A Newtown, Conn., priest had the"horrible" job of going door-to-door informing families early Saturday morning that their children had been killed in the elementary school massacre.

Why would the priest have to inform the parent's personally of the death of their children if they had already ID'd their dead kid via photos? Do you get the feeling they are making this stuff up as they go along?


December  16, 2012

12:01am – post by salainen -HELL-OOOOOO! What are you talking about? This whole incident is nothing but a"drill." This was a PSY-OP! Why do you think the story changes every few hours? There are no DEAD CHILDREN - NO HEROIC TEACHERS! WAKE UP!  Does anything about this story make any sense?NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! Why? Because it never happened! This is all STAGED!The only "GOTCHA!" in this story is if you BUY IT!

12:14am - SuperStudChuck says : Then again, I thought I remembered seeing a pic of a car with a New Jersey license plate in the parking lot yesterday, too.  (DH Comment: 872-YEO was a Connecticut plate)

1:46am – one poster reminds us of this…Sandy Hook School Principal Dawn Hochsprung told The Bee that amasked man entered the school with a rifle and started shooting multiple shows – more than she could count – that went "on and on."

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8:12am – paperbackwriter mentions info on Peter Lanza’s new wife:   I think her name is Jennifer and she is about 37 years old and also works with Ernst & Young.  That's from doing online background search.   They have been married a little over two years. The divorce was settled in 2009 so they got married probably about 6 months after and moved into her home in Stamford.

9:55pm – paperbackwriter - If I am not mistaken Ms. Roig was one of 37 new hires at the beginning of this school year by the Newtown School Board.

12:12pm – Newtown Church now being evacuated

12:43pm From Shaneslaughta - it was on cnn, a journalist commented that they had roped off a car that was from nj.....they later confirmed it was adams car.  They found the ar-15 inside it supposedly yet all the wounds on the deceased were with the ar-15.

2:32pm - SuperStudChucksays:  At church today, we were told the brother of one of our church people (small church-- 100 or so-- in Minnesota)lost a granddaughter. Her name was Charlotte Bacon, 6. So I think this confirms to me that these are REAL kids. No reason for my conservative church to make this up. We have no political sway.

3:20pm – from Dark Penguin – this relates to the media saying the entered the school with three guns.  Contradicts the fact that the bushmaster was found IN THE CAR (not to be confused with IN THE TRUNK, where the bolt action rifle was found later that night).  “Lanza had entered the school heavily armed. He had three guns -- two handguns and the Bushmaster .223-caliber assault rifle that he used to force his way in and kill most of his victims -- along with hundreds of bullets, at least 30 magazines per gun and extra ammunition, police said. Lanza ultimately used a handgun to kill himself, state police said, and the three guns, the rifle, a Glock 10 mm and a Sig Sauer 9 mm, were found by his body. A fourth gun, a shotgun, was found in Lanza's car outside the school, police said.” (article from

3:55pm – one poster says….”However,on the very first day, I read one report and one report only that said Lanza possibly had 6 guns in his possession of which 4 were registered to his mother and 2 were registered to his father”

4:02pm – someone posts regarding the coincidence of “Sandy Hook” working on the map in the movie “The Dark Knight Rises”.

7:22pm - Post by “I-on-beam” Good post - police have cordoned off a black Honda with New Jersey plates believed to belong to the dead shooter. 


Two handguns have been recovered at the scene and police have cordoned off a black Honda with New Jersey plates believed to belong to the dead shooter. 


Authorities initially believed that there were two gunmen and were searching cars around the school, but authorities do not appear to be looking for another gunman 

The gunman, identified as Adam Lanza, 24, of New Jersey, was killed inside of the school. 

The Bushmaster AR15 rifle found in the trunk of Adam Lanza’s car was also her’s. 
Law enforcement sources said the Bushmaster was recovered in the car, but Vancedenied that assertion at a newsconference.

He also had an assault-style rifle in his car, but did not bring it into the school 

Police say that Lanza drove to Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown in his mother's car. 

Read more: 

Three guns were found at the scene - a Glock and a Sig Sauer, both pistols,inside the school, and a .223-caliber rifle in the back of a car. 

Read more: 

My two cents… too many inaccuracies leave incompetence. People (MSM) should fired, and or keep them away and do not let them close to any crimes b/c they are in competent. Police and authorities should not talk with them… Confusion is for us to concentrate on this and not other things.. again Blissing to all!Hope all the links work after previewing. 

ps added later... how could he have had all these guns and ammo and still managed to be an accurate shooter ???  we just been had.

8:32pm – Honor93’s Post regarding the weight of the ammo….there is no way that twig of a boy was carrying all of that on his person ... not a chance.  90 loaded clips ?? 3 weapons ... nope, not seeing it.  don't they have ANY clue how much weight that is ??  since i haven't seen a recent photo of Lanza, i really don't know but, i seriously doubt Adam was a weight trainer or a lumber jack of a man like he'd have to be in order to manage thel oad they're describing.

8:38pm - Post by starvirego:  What exactly is the evidence against the accused suspect Adam Lanza?

He was carrying another's ID card. The car he allegedly drove was not registered in his name. Nor were any of the weapons registered in his name. And certainly no witness could have ID'd him from a photo lineup as the shooter allegedly wore a mask. So how did they make an ID? Did they take his fingerprints at the crime scene and compare them to those in a database? That's the only way they could have done it.

Also unusual is the total lack of any online presence, given that the kid was known to be good with computers,demonstrated by his hosting "LAN" parties.

Did he even know how to drive a car? I don't see any evidence that the guy had a driver's license. And certainly he did not have any record of violence, or even any anti-social tendencies.

This guy is as much a patsy as Jared Loughner or James Holmes.


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11:03pm - Post from Honor93 - am reading it over and much of what is there, i hadn't read or heard being reported. from what i have read/heard, there isn't much of this that does connect together as it should.  between the pip-squeak of a guy manhandling upwards of 200lbs of armament into a school, un-noticed ? all the way to 20+ dead without an errant bullet being fired, to broken windows, shooting out the main door but no one heard ... none and i do mean none of it even remotely sounds logical, likely or even possible.  i'm still wondering how the local newspaper printed the supposed statement of a dead woman (principle) ?that just isn't proper reporting in any way, shape or form. {accident my arse}

11:44pm - Also Sunday, a Connecticut official said the gunman's mother was found dead in her pajamas in bed, shot four times in the head with a .22-caliber rifle. (a different rifle?)

11:44pm - Another story from a“parent”  - A parent told MailOnline Lanza battered on a closet where 15 children and their music teacher were locked inside shouting: 'Let me in! Let me in!'

The mother, in her 40s, who declined to give her name, praised the quick-thinking actions of Maryrose Kristopik: 'I want to thank my child's music teacher. She saved their lives.  'The shooter kept banging on the door screaming: "Let me in! Let me in!" but he didn't get in.  So why didn't he shoot right through the doors?


December 17, 2012

2:54am - Paperbackwriter -Earlier today I was reading a story where the remaining 430 students would be attending an empty school in good condition called Chalk Hill.  First question I had was how convenient there was a ready-made school in the waiting, why wasn't it being used if it was in good condition?

5:04am - One incredibly brave little girl is the only survivor of her first grade class because she played dead while her friends were killed around her by gunman Adam Lanza. The unnamed girl's story was revealed after her mother attended grief counseling with a local pastor Jim Solomon. The unnamed girl, 6, waited until she believed it was safe hiding among the corpses, then ran from the building covered with blood from head to toe.

11:15am - I've been following this since it happened, and I'm not buying it at all. The story changes way too many times. None of it makes sense. I've thought about it, and thought about it. I've looked at that picture of Adam many times, and I just don't see how he could have done this. Not by himself. It doesn't make sense to me why he would say let me in, let me in. It sounds as if he was trying to get away from someone. I have the feeling that Adam may have been a victim, and unfortunately there's no way to prove it that I can see. Post by username “CatrionaBeldame”

11:39am - Two adult survivors who were shot and injured in the Newtown, Conn., school massacre will be integral parts of the investigation into the deadly rampage, police said today."Investigators will, in fact, speak with them when it's medically appropriate and they will shed a great deal of light on the facts and circumstances of this tragic investigation," Connecticut State Police Lt.Paul Vance said at a news conference today.

12:31pm - I've been following this thread pretty closely but maybe I missed something.  I thought there was only one injured survivor, the woman who was shot in the foot. Can anyone tell me who the second one was?

12:37pm - Someone mentioned a NEW article from ABC regarding a 2nd gunman….”I google-searched 'ABC two shooters at school'  I got a hit, low and behold it was from a story they did three days ago.  Click on the link... It has been updated!Updated as in 'SCRUBBED' of any mention of two shooters. Post by “butcherguy”

3:11pm Post by MisterMaster:  After rumors of Nancy Lanza working for DARPA, I set off into that rabbit-hole all day.

It was mentioned that perhaps Nancy was working on video games or something similar.

So, on December 12th,2012 NVIDIA announced a partnership with DARPA worth $20M.

NVIDIA as many know is the industry leader in graphics cards and processing equipment for computers and consoles.

"NVIDIA has been awarded a contract from DARPA to research embedded processor technologies that could lead to dramatic improvements in the ability of autonomous vehicles to collect and process data from onboard sensors. The goal is to enable surveillance and computer vision systems in ground and airborne vehicles to collect an analyze vastly more data that can be processed today in real time. This is the fourth grant awarded to the company through DARPA."

I found no other articles related to any of the other grants, I tried.

Strangely...the gentleman in charge of this project is named Drew Lanza. There is also a product by NVIDIA called the "Lanza". All info on this product is in Spanish on all Google searches related...I have no further info on it as I dont speak the language. Perhaps someone could check that lead out??

Anyway, curious as to who this Lanza guy is, I jumped down that hole....

Drew Lanza has NO relationship to Adam Lanza as far as I can tell. Peter, Adams father has two brothers named Mark and Michael. No other siblings are listed on

HOWEVER, there are some strange coincidences that I gotta mention.

Drew grew up near Stamford, CT.

Currently employed by Morganthaler Ventures. Peter works for GE. How many ex GE employees work at Morganthaler now you ask? 13 is the answer. Like Goldman Sachs runs the Fed, GE runs Morganthaler.

Graduated Stamford University in 1979 with an MS in Electrical Engineering. Stayed and taught for two years and then left for IBM. He left there and founded part of Sony. He left there for.....Raytheon! A few cool jobs later, he is now a partner at Morganthaler.

While in Stamford he was a member of Delta Kappa Epsilon. Some of the alumni of that fraternity include:

Both President Bushes. Roosevelt.William Hurst. Harry Truman. Many many many members of the board of very large news conglomerates....check the wiki on the fraternity...amazing the illimanati members!

Their has the following creepy quote on their homepage...real creepy.

"A brother dead and brothers mourning Fill the heart with grief today. And the earnest grab fraternal;Speaks,"a dear one passed away." Yes, no longer shall we greet thee in the halls of DKE. Yet,they name in sweet remembrance Graven on our hearts will be. As we trust,to meet again,In a full unbroken circle,Free from sorrow and pain."

All mistakes and capital letters are exactly as they were written.

So, mom may work for DARPA doing video type things. Drew Lanza works for NVIDIA through Morganthaler Venture doing a processor and video program with DARPA. Morganthaler is filled with GE execs and Peter Lanza is a GE exec.

Drew Lanza grew up in the same area. He shares the same last name. lists 117 Lanzas in the US...that have a landline anyway, so a bit of a stretch, but whats the odds of there being another unrelated Lanza that once lived in the vicinity NOT being related?

Pictures of Peter and Drew next to each other show they most definitely could be related...they look strikingly similar.

I am not implying this has anything to do with anything besides a strange coincidence. There are some uncanny coincidences that warrant further investigation. I cannot because of the limits of my phone or I would.

Wait til ya see what else I found.....

3:57pm - Nvidia is spying for the US government. If you have a nvidia card in your computer. Take a look at user profiles on your computer. They now have created a hidden user on it.Updatus User. Take a look at the folder it holds. The file folders on your computer. Documents, videos, links, etc etc

4:31pm – one poster suggests looking into the gun manufactures stock price over the past three days….could be something similar to the “put options” bought for UA and AA before 911.

5:41pm - Now this story was pulled.

Most of the interview is here….Then, during the interview, something strange occurred as Monsignor Weiss began to laugh and giggle on the phone while discussing this grave situation.He was asked how things happened at his school.

“Monsignor Weiss: "We were located...we were notified through the alarm system that's in our town through the school system,"

Monsignor Weiss began. "Our children were actually at mass so we kept them in church for quite a while and then sent them over to our hall where they are still in one group.

So now...we are justa waiting...word from the officials on what we should do from here. I'm more concerned about the...the...


MSNBC: "Monsignor..."

Monsignor Weiss:"(laughter)"

MSNBC: "Monsignor...?"

Monsignor Weiss:"...(laughter)...more concerned about the parents waiting to find out what happened to their children (stifling laughter)."

(DH Comment: Later he states this…”Monsignor Robert Weiss of the St. Rose of Lima Roman Catholic Church thanked the community for giving him strength to get through a week filled with funerals. St. Rose of Lima lost eight children and two adults in the massacre.”  “This has been the worst week of my life,” Weiss said. Link:

5:45pm - This is the 2nd time there has been awkward laughter from professionals. The ME also was making jokes and laughing about one of the gravest tragedies ever seen in this country.

6:05pm - More talk about the Newtown Bee publishing an article and quoting Principal Dawn Hochsprung…..Exactly.Who is this woman, and why did she misrepresent herself? Was this another planted eyewitness, like we saw on 9/11, to make sure the story follows the agreed-upon script?

7:06pm - Poster is looking for follow up on this quote:  USA Today said they had interviewed a very traumatized school nurse from Sandy Hook, who described how the gunman walked into her office and looked her straight in the eye.


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7:30pm – reports now say that Lanza’s computer was smashed up.

7:45pm – on the same morning - On the morning Adam Lanza allegedly gunned down his mother, 20 small children, and five adults in a Connecticut school, his uncle was on the front page of a New Hampshire newspaper for bringing a man back to life.  Link:

9:26pm - No photographs or evidence of a gun-club membership for Adam?

9:43pm – A user posts this interview, very strange comments and awkward situation from first responder Jeffrey Thomas, 38 of Sandy Hook fire department.  He said he was first notified by this event by the multiple helicopters around Sandy Hook. Link:

11:52pm –from paperbackwriter:  I am sure I have read and heard that Soto protected her students and none besides her were killed.   Now 6 were killed there besides her?


December 18, 2012

12:30am – user says Ryan’s FB page was real (DH comment:  a post by potential girlfriend Jessica O’Brien asking Ryan if she can prepare something for Ryan for dinner), and Adam’s wasn’t….and also the page setup earlier, seems odd.

Both brothers subscribed to a page done by Josh Halloway…Adam’s only had a few friends and one was a white kids with tats.    Some good videos out there by username Idaho Picker regarding the screen shots of Adam’s page before it was removed.

7:17am – MisterMaster  posts that Adam changed his political affiliation on FB to “Anarchist, communist” at 6am that same day.  Suggests that Josh Halloway could be the 2ndshooter.  Very creepy page, and pictures with Adam in them.

8:02am – Nighthawk1954 – posts a link to a great tribute video on You Tube.

9:33am – ButcherGuy posts a comment around the “I smelled sulfur” quote.  Black powder weapons create a sulfur smell, but not the current, modern weapons.   Was a black powder weapon used in the shootings?

2:08pm – from NavyDoc :  There is a lot of conflicting information and stuff that does not make sense. The naive side of me wants to dismiss it as just the "fog of war"--confusion and so forth surrounding a horrible event. The jaded side of me thinks that some of this is a bit too suspicious.Gun control was a dead topic since the Dems got creamed in the 1996 midterms and only something of this magnitude could ever give them any ground. The timing, with a lame duck liberal president and retention of the senate seems a bit too perfect. Once is happenstance, twice is coincidence, but three times is enemy action, as an old war horse once said to me.

3:52pm – by Taggart with reason for the smashed hard drive.   - 1.To paint the picture of a calculated killer 'They' swapped his hard drive with a broken one to paint the picture he may have planned it on his computer and destroyed the evidence.   2.He was a calculated killer and he destroyed his hard drive to hide anything that could be found.

4:21pm – media now saying that Adam snapped after he found out about his mother’s plan to move forward with having him committed.

4:36pm – many users are posting the video link of Robbie Parker laughing and smiling before his interview.

5:26pm post from paperbackwriter- Upcoming move to Washington State:  I just heard an interview with 3 people who knew her who said she was planning to sell her house and move to a college town they had been looking at in Washington State.  I wrote down their names as I listened. John Bergquist, Russ Hanoman, and Elener Adriani (that maybe spelled wrong, I was writing it fast because they didn't leave it up there long).

5:47pm – post by “curiouscatty” –regarding the Robbie Parker video:   I do however promise all of you that THAT MAN DID NOT JUST LOSE A CHILD.

7:00pm - Uncle says Adam was on Fanapt.

10:51pm - Strange item from GeneRosen:  Then Rosen called the children’s parents, using cell phone numbers obtained from the school bus company, and they came and retrieved their children.

11:02pm – curious observation that all the media is now focusing on the funerals, and documenting the family’s strength, etc.  Nothing at all about the remaining questions.

11:09pm – good post comparing this mass shooting to another mass-shooting at a school:  The Virginia Tech shooting, with 33 deaths,was covered efficiently and no conflicting stories. No disinformation.


December 19, 2012

12:28am – good summary here from a new poster: Here's my thing.....the media has painted a really stellar picture of Adam Lanza as this complete basket case. So unstable he could not function in regular school. So unstable his mom was at her witts end with him, so messed up that his entire world was on his computer. So unstable she quit work to care for him?  Yet, she takes him shooting?She keeps guns in the house?


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8:27pm – TKDRL – posts that their family knows one of the kids killed.   He also mentioned that the mother also watched the Robbie Parker interview as she is not a tin-foil hat wearer, but still said, “something is off here.”


December 20, 2012

9:23am – Nighthawk1954 post regarding how you can donate:

7:28pm – good post - I think maybe that's because she MAY have owned 3 guns. Another smear article said she had a 'cache of large weapons'. (the 3 guns?) She was said ( by media) to target practice with Adam. Seems to me she obviously trusted him with guns and didn't seemed worried. She supposedly had them for self defense, does that make one a 'doomsday prepper' in and of itself, (that term seems to be used to create stereotypes). For me to believe that he suddenly would take a gun and shoot his mother in her sleep?, smash his hard drive up for nobody could read what it contained, and then go massacre a room full of children and faculty,it's going to have to take more evidence than this weak twisted convoluted nonsensical tale devoid of any real details, swirling around and being fed to the herd through the so called 'news'.

8:10pm - I'm really trying to understand why Nancy Lanza is being crucified by the media and the public to the point that many are blaming her for essentially enabling Adam Lanza's actions but Adam's father, Peter Lanza, is not facing any backlash for Adam's actions.

10:00pm – good response regarding the crucifixion of Nancy in the media as a “doomsday prepper”.  “Because she stands for a stereotype that the media wants to crucify. Nothing personal. And she apparently isn't in a position to refute the smears.”


December 21, 2012

10:57am – good post in response to the comment regarding the press’ lax of coverage on Peter Lanza:  That is a good point starviego; I'm sure that Peter Lanza being a Vice President at GE Energy Financial Services and GE owning 49% of both NBC & MSNBC allows that "news" division to give Peter Lanza a pass.

Interesting enough, isn't it interesting that this is one of the few mass shootings that the media isn't giving the accused shooter's middle name? Guess what, the accused shooter's full name: Adam Peter Lanza. If they were using his middle name, Peter, in coverage it might remind us that he has a father too...

11:00am – NickDC202 posts - Is it just me or are we witnessing the worst exercise of modern"journalism" with the coverage of Adam & Nancy Lanza's background? It just seems the media is throwing spaghetti against the wall and seeing what sticks...

11:13am - User “cinnamonhearts”writes:  The biggest red flag to me is that MSM does not ask questions. You can't tell me that MSM didn't hear the police audio, the dialogue about more than one shooter, the comment about a teacher seeing two shadows running by her ,,, More than one shooter in police audio, just like in Aurora.

12:42pm - Was the shooter wearing a mask or not? As far as I knew they claimed Adam was wearing a mask. However,if Adam was wearing a mask, why would a child claim the gunman "had no facial expressions"?

5:53pm - Good quote from paperbackwriter:  “The victims are as sketchy as the shooter.”

5:57pm – another from paperbackwriter:  “Wow how many regulars were out that day? The school nurse and the school secretary?  A teacher requiring a substitute? Who else?”  (DH comment: Rousseau was a substitute that day, Sally Cox, the nurse wasn’t in and the Secretary took the day off).

11:05am - Cinnamonhearts writes:  "Emilie, right, smiles alongside her parents, Robbie and Alissa, and her two little sisters. Her mother did not attend the memorial as she is still too fragile, friends said.  (DH Comment: Alissa Parker, Emilie’s mom did NOT attend the memorial for Emilie in Ogden, UT What?) Link:


December 22, 2012


December 23, 2012


December 24, 2012

5:01am - New comment regarding the “delivery man” -  Dennis Stratford,who works for the school district, happened to be making a delivery to Sandy Hook Elementary when the gunman attacked. He saw dead children. He saw the remains of dead children on those who survived. He waited agonizing minutes for his own child to emerge unharmed from the school. Two of his neighbors' children did not.   "I go home and cry every night, and I cry every morning," Stratford said.  “There were nine minutes of evil, and an infinity of goodness after that," Stratford said, sitting on a forklift loaded with gifts. "This is therapy for me."


December 25, 2012


December 26, 2012

11:00pm - A mock shooting drill was being conducted in Putnam County, which is only miles away from Sandy Hook,on the very same day!


December 27, 2012


December 28, 2012


December 29, 2012

10:25am – post by username“receptive” – regarding the number of students in Soto’s class – it doesn’t add up.  1. Police - finding "7 kids safe in the closet."  2.  6 kids (4 girls 2 boys) at Gene Rosen's house."Mrs. Soto is dead."  3. Aidan Licata and 2 boys ran away. A woman picked them up and took them to police station.  What can you make of this?  Teachers on Facebook: "He killed her and not one of her children were harmed."  Friend on Tumblr: "Not one of her students were harmed."

4:52pm – more comments now appear regarding VisionBox crisis actors.

8:40pm - Now Reddit is on this sandy hook stuff and they have been posting pics of actors and this lady has to be the same person.  i'm glad more mainstream places are now looking into the inconsistency of the official story.  Something is up.


December 30, 2012 thru January 11, 2013 – No posts


January 12, 2013 – Final Post of thread

2:45pm – username “hypattia” - This whole Rosen thing is what has convinced me that something is very wrong! Along with the points above, which is exactly what I've been wondering. I don't know what happened but I know something is just plain wrong! My children would have been crying for me, not sitting in a STRANGERS HOUSE, crying and discussing the shooting!

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    The .223 has recoil like a 16 gauge shotgun???
    The .223 has almost no recoil, and in the AR15 has even mess because of the recoil spring and recoil buffer assembly. Come on..really? Research is simple..or just ask someone who really knows.

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    My understanding, the funerals of the 20 children were closed caskets - only reason to have closed casket (if the face is blown off), blood noted and/or the shooter would have to hit each child in the face? Statically impossible

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